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    Tuesday, 25 January 2005

    Why are NTL so crap?

    I used to have an account with NTL, a cable TV / telco in the UK. I gave up on using their phone service and broadband over a year ago as I wanted simple things like a reliable net connection with reverse DNS. I switched to ADSL ages back, and things were good. I continued using the cable TV from NTL for a while, as I was too apathetic to switch.

    Last month, I finally got around to doing something about that - Sky in the UK offer a better digital TV service with more features like the Sky+ DVR for less money than I was paying to NTL. Once the Sky satellite disk was installed, I started to cancel the NTL subscription. That was an adventure in itself:

    1. Spend ages on the phone in a queue on the "customer helpline".
    2. Eventually speak to someone, be given a fresh number to ring for the cancellations department.
    3. Ring that number. It's busy and drops the line after a few seconds.
    4. Try again at #1 above, and get a different number to ring. "Oh no, the first number you were given for cancellations is wrong".

    After multiple iterations through the above script, I eventually got through to the right people. "I'd like to cancel my account", I told them. "Sorry sir, you'll have to do that in writing", they told me, "and you have to give 30 days' notice, which will start from the postmark on the cancellation letter." They then gave me an address to write to. An address that's not on the website, and none of the previous people could possibly have told me it, of course, oh no.

    So, on the 13th December I sent them a letter to cancel. I expected things to end there, but no such luck. After Christmas a letter landed in the mail. It wasn't an acknowledgement of the cancellation. It was another bill for the period from 13th January to 13th February. The cancellation letter had had no visible effect. As the new bill neatly coincided with 1 month from the date of my cancellation, I took an easy route and cancelled the Direct Debit that NTL used to collect payment.

    Now that got a response - a letter landed this morning threatening extra charges to my account if I did not reinstate the Direct Debit. An urgent letter that took 7 days to come through their system, judging by the postmark. So I've just been on the phone to them. After nearly 20 minutes of listening to hold music, I eventually got through to the complaints department. "Sorry, sir - the cancellation only took effect on the 19th December, so you still owe us...". After some arguing on the phone I've got satisfaction (I believe) - I've had a promise that the account is closed with nothing outstanding and no more nasty letters to come. If I hear anything more then I'll be going to the regulator about this...

    </rant>

    It seems the only way that NTL can keep customers these days is to make it nigh-on impossible to cancel an account.

    17:23 :: # :: /misc :: 126 comments

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    Re: Why are NTL so crap?
    Caimh mcDonnell wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:36

    My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care

    Dear Steve,

    Thank you for your letter of September 2006 and in answer to your question, yes! As an NTL telephone and broadband customer, I did know that I was entitled to a special deal on digital TV. I'm not sure what tipped me off, it may have been the extensive advertising of the fact or the never ending stream of letters I've received from you. Either way, rest assured, the penny has dropped. I'm sorry, I should have written sooner, it's become quite clear to me that you've become quite fixated on my knowing this. Rest assured, I do.

    Lets talk man to man Steve, we both know what this is about. When I moved into my new house eight months ago, I decided to go with you for the phone and broadband but not the digital TV. In hindsight, I can see that was insensitive of me. You felt cheap and used. You were looking for a long-term commitment and I was all "Wham, Bam, thank you Steve!". Please believe me, It's not you Steve, it's me. I'm really more of a reader, I'm just not as interested in watching re-runs of Lovejoy as you are. We want different things from life, you're just going to have to accept that.

    Which brings me to the phone calls Steve. Every day for weeks and weeks, someone would ring my mobile during the morning and hang up every time I'd answer. As you know Steve, I work nights and this became very irritating. I was already losing sleep worrying about my decision to go without digital TV and this just made it a lot worse. The number the phone calls came from was 08000 272500. When I rang back all I got was a recorded Scottish lady saying I'd been contacted by a company called MGT, at least I think that's it (bless the Scots, their diction isn't brilliant is it Steve?). Ring the number right now Steve, you'll hear their message. There was no contact number, I couldn't find them on the internet and the message just said they'd rang on behalf of an unspecified client and, ominously, would ring again. I was at a lose end, who wanted to get hold of me that badly? My housemate Gary said it sounded like it was something called an "automatic dialler" that had my number but you know how private I am Steve. I don't think I'd have given my number out to something like that. They only people I gave it to was you(NTL), Gary and my mum. Initially we suspected Mum to behind the calls but her Scottish accent really isn't good enough to pull it off, although it's thankfully not as unfortunately racist as her attempt at Welsh.

    Never the less, I thought I'd go home to Dublin and confront her about it. She denied all knowledge and sat in her room sulking while watching re-runs of Lovejoy. Then came the break-through! When MGT did their daily ring and hang-up while I was over there, I got not the 0800 dead end number but thanks to the magic of international phone exchanges, I got their real number(01592 587200). When I rang back, I got an actual human being! Albeit one who works in tele-sales. She tried to protect you but after a lot of toing and fro-ing, she dropped the bombshell. They'd been given my number by you!

    I was hurt, I was confused. I know we've had our problems in the past Steve but I did tick the "do not contact me" box on the contract and I can't believe you'd give my details to someone else. Instead of dealing with our problems head on Steve you hired someone to stalk me for weeks and weeks. If you'd have just stalked me yourself at least that I might have understood but instead you went for the commercial equivalent of putting my number on a loo wall with the message "If you're looking for a good time ring…"

    I rang NTL's customer service line. They tried to cover for you Steve rest assured, every one of those brave Customer service call center cannon fodderites was willing to dive on the emotional grenade of my outrage for you. They tried everything - 35 minutes of denying a company called MGT did sales calls for you, assurances nobody ever did sales calls for you, a game of pass the irate Paddy which lead to me speaking to about 30 different people. Eventually one of them cracked and admitted, yes it was you, yes I'd said not to contact me on my contract and very definitely not to give my details to a third party.

    So, that's the real reason why I'm writing Steve. I rang over a week ago and I was assured my complaint was being dealt with and someone would get right back to me... but nothing. I think you're living in denial Steve. I'm taking your letter of this morning as a clumsy attempt to say you want things to go back to the way they were, that just can't happen.

    I tried to talk to you directly on the phone about this Steve but your customer helpline is set up in such a way as to make talking to anyone of any kind of authority a complete impossibility. Indeed, as I sit here staring at my beloved NTL phone on my desk, I find it hard to believe that I was seriously told by a representative of NTL the phone company, who provide my phone services and who lead to me being phoned every day for weeks, that the only real way to complain was to write you a letter. Steve, I think you've got a royal mail spy in your midst.

    In summary Steve, I eagerly await the day when my contract with you expires and I can transfer to someone who is a lot less clingy. I tried to suggest to your people that in light of your appalling actions you should release me from my contract now but I was told that was impossible without my paying a wapping big fine. Steve, Steve, Steve - did no less a man than the great Sting say - 'If you love someone set them free'. In other words, I think we should see other people.

    yours sincerely,

    Caimh McDonnell

    P.S. Oh what the hell, maybe we can work something out. So Steve, please send me your personal mobile number and lets talk about this man-to-man.


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